For subscribers: My unedited interview with Mary Heglar

“OK, I’m not gonna get drunk drunk.”

This is not how the clean, edited version of my interview with Mary Annaise Heglar for episode 5 of the HEATED podcast started.

It is, however, how the raw audio file, posted above, starts. Just five straight minutes of Mary and I talking about whether we should be drinking alcohol during the interview or not; me even…

This episode is for paying subscribers