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Sep 19, 2023Liked by Emily Atkin, Arielle Samuelson

So proud to support the work that HEATED (thank YOU, Emily and Arielle--and, Shana Tovah!) does!

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Thank you for being such an engaged subscriber Ian!! Shana Tova!!

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Thank you, shana tova!

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Great article! Another accounting of how fossil fuel backed magnates and their political minions use the fake argument of “climate reality” to keep the world in “climate fantasy”, one where oil giants chose to sell their products over decarbonizing while ignoring their own science and the very credible climate science of what will happen to the earth as we surpass 1.5 - 2 degrees C. This is the biggest conspiracy ever created, and it’s still underway. Thank you to Heated for pushing back and beating the drum of reality!

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Emily and team, this is fantastic investigative journalism and I love the new formats. If you are looking for corruption of legislation by fossil fuel front group influence at the state level, NH is a good example. We have Gov Chris Sununu at the helm (yes, his father is denier John Sununu - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvGQMZFP9IA). And the House Republican Whip Jeanine Notter has received $11,500 in reimbursements to go on boondoggle trips to attend Koch Network (ALEC, Heartland Institute, and other conferences - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-WtoR-_yCeF7def8KMZJM8pxw8iJok0cIeTndehfXGE/edit?usp=drivesdk), then supports bills straight from those groups (eg. preemption bills to prevent towns from making rules that could reduce fossil fuel consumption - about: https://climate-xchange.org/2022/05/19/webinar-recap-tackling-preemption-fighting-state-efforts-to-block-municipal-climate-action, and in practice: https://energynews.us/2021/09/27/new-hampshire-gas-law-handcuffs-local-government-on-climate-friendly-construction/). There's plenty more evidence like that, eg this HR17 testimony: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bkrLzQCcSUcSiakra1bWKGBjklHCRA_ufZJ0MWALDX0/edit?usp=drivesdk.

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Awesome news can’t wait to see it all over video feeds.

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I have a bumper sticker that says "Exxon Knew- Make them Pay". And yet, is Exxon to blame for the media, such as weather channels, continually denying that our storms are made stronger by the climate crisis? In Az, there were 50 some days of over 110 degrees. We just had a storm with 80 mph winds. Not a peep about why. Is it because all of the media companies are invested in fossil fuels?

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I want to request that you read actual climate science, and not the ideological junk science papers produced by politically supported posers. Start with realclimate.org.

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I'd certainly like to know who is paying this person to post nonsense.

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It might be a bot, posing under the meme of “take back manufacturing”. But whoever, or whatever, it may be, I agree with writers like Naomi Klein that far right conspiracies have so much traction now that we can no longer ignore them. We need to confront their use of junk science to continue the misinformation campaigns begun so many decades ago by the fossil fuel industry.

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I just did some research - the comment is from Nigel Southway, a coach for “business productivity” who has published a number of books that explicitly or implicitly deny climate science. I don’t know who funds him, but here’s the kind of stuff he writes: “Renewables are 3 times worse for the planet than conventional power sources, as the total supply chain for renewables (solar panels, windmills, and electric transportation) attract at least 3 times the carbon footprint and create environmental damage than traditional sources of energy”. As far as I can tell, he footnotes nothing, so he seems to just write what will please his audience. Some part of me thinks I’m wasting my time, and the time of others, by writing this comment, but I’m both fascinated and horrified by how small players in the libertarian space can contribute to society’s confusion over how to address the climate emergency.

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Nigel, can you name a single scientific organization anywhere in the world that supports your opinion about AGW? No, you can't.

Do you have a response to the OP, which clearly shows the decision by Exxon to follow the money rather than the evidence of AGW around 1990, and thus ignoring the unequivocal conclusions from its own climate scientists of the previous decades in its public dialog and PR on the subject (though it continued to make business plans based on the scientific evidence that supported the scientific conclusions about AGW)? No, you didn't.

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Give us a break, Nigel! Donna is not a climate scientist, or any kind of scientist. She is another grifter funded by fossil fuel front groups to promote disinformation and delaying addressing the climate pollution from fossil fuels (e.g. The Heartland Institute) - https://www.desmog.com/donna-laframboise/.

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