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Jun 27, 2023Liked by Emily Atkin

So glad this article was written. I saw this floating around the feeds from some NYC friends and I knew there had to be a gross manipulation of the facts

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Jun 27, 2023Liked by Emily Atkin

I just stepped outside a few minutes ago (about 7 AM) and was overwhelmed with the powerful smell of smoke - just as I was yesterday. Sure enough, the winds have shifted and the smoke from the Canadian wild fires that inundated NYC and upstate NY a week or so back is now blowing across the great state of Michigan and the Great Lakes area. This is particulate pollution, and for this reason the air quality index here is "unhealthy" and will be for the next week at least. Those with asthma, allergies, emphysema and other respiratory difficulties need to stay inside during this event or risk having to go to the hospital for help breathing. This has absolutely nothing to do with climate change and everything to do with the simple byproduct of combustion: smoke.

I'm not a bit surprised at the obvious manipulation of facts being used to turn pizza lovers against any attempts to address climate change - it's the principal MO of this gang. What is upsetting is the number of people who buy into it without bothering to do any fact-checking. As always, I'm grateful to the two of you for presenting the facts so clearly and unambiguously so that anyone who cares to can quickly ascertain what is true and what is manipulative BS.

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I have to add one significant postscript: I wrote, "This has absolutely nothing to do with climate change and everything to do with the simple byproduct of combustion: smoke."

That statement was grotesquely inaccurate - the fact is, these fires have everything to do with climate change: the intensity and plenitude of these fires is a direct result of changes in the climate caused by increased CO2 in the atmosphere. Of course I meant that the NY regulation isn't about climate change - but I applied that to the forest fires in Canada, which was false.

Thanks for letting me clear that up.

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Jun 27, 2023Liked by Emily Atkin

Very timely article, thank you. I just saw a post from a conservative FB friend about NYC pizza rules, and then boom, I get HEATED's story. :-)

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"It’s more accurate to say that, by manufacturing outrage to turn people against the rule, conservatives are coming for your lungs." Well said! Thanks for this excellent rebuttal.

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Jun 27, 2023Liked by Emily Atkin

Nice work Heated team!!

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"Denialists' hot air continues to be a significant contribution to increasing global temperatures"

Now that's a true headline!

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Thank you for this debunking. Ugh.

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Awesome reporting on this climate disinformation, and in particular I like that you noted indoor pollution is vastly less regulated despite how much more often we are indoors compared to outdoors.

But in a way, I am coming for NYC pizza? I want wood and coal stoves/ovens to not exist, on a relatively ambitious timeframe, and if that means NYC pizza can't be made the same way because of the specific way wood or coal stoves cook it for some reason, then at least I think I am?

I do want to be honest, and always try to be, when talking to people about what I believe is necessary for stopping climate change and what the consequences will be, good or bad, and not bullshit them about what needs to change, even if it's things they enjoy.

I don't want to detract from the article because clearly this rule is being blatantly lied about in this instance as was excellently shown, but I already know how the conversations will go with people about this. I will correct them about this rule, but they will want to know if it came down to banning coal/wood ovens and by extension NYC pizza, what my answer would be. And I have to say yes.

"It’s more accurate to say that, by manufacturing outrage to turn people against the rule, conservatives are coming for your lungs."

And this is such a fucking good line. And it is completely true. But it works. What conservatives are doing is working and I fucking hate it.

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Great reporting! Let’s get that great line about conservatives coming for your lungs out there! Can you slip it in next time you are on TV??

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Are you aware of the upcoming global Climate Emergency Day on July 22nd? Being sponsored by Climate Clock out of New York City. In Duluth, Minnesota, we're holding a vigil and press conference along with a week long climate awareness campaign. Would like to share info about Heated.

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Thanks for letting us know you didn't actually read the article!

This rule is specifically to protect the individuals near the ovens. People burning wood/coal elsewhere is entirely irrelevant to the safety of employees, customers, and neighbors of pizzerias. The owner of Paulie Gees, a famous pizzeria, was even quoted in the NY Post article stating anyone fighting this is just being cheap.

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Gotcha, so your comment isn't really related to the article you posted it on?

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